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Post by easy31st Tue May 10, 2016 1:44 am

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This is a cover up for one of my boys he had a bunch of bullshit tattoos on his forearm so he wanted to go all black in the front. This picture is two days later I was so tired after I didn't even think of taking a picture. I know I definitely have to go back in on all the black after it heals and fill in all the hexagons solid black to.
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Post by easy31st Tue May 10, 2016 1:50 am

As you can see the black is not solid. I used a color packer that I put together from a frame I got on eBay. The needles I used was a 5rs and a 15cm. I'm going to unimax before I go over it again and I'm gonna pluck up some larger mags and disposable tubes. That shit took way too long with that little 15, lol. We was at work when the picture was taking, I do constriction and we was sanding and spackling all day so that's why he's so dusty.
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Post by Dmerit Tue May 10, 2016 7:21 am

I find that a bigger needle doesn't always colour as quick as you think,,,, I very rarely use anything bigger than a 7mag...an important thing when packing colour is to angle your machine, sometimes much more than you'd think...
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Post by marked 4 life Tue May 10, 2016 7:36 am

I agree with Dmerit, big is good for black and grey but not necessarily for solid black fill, I tend to use no bigger than an 11MG1 and a well set up machine will pack it in evenly in one pass.

Also worth mentioning but you probably already know, have multiple ink caps of black because the blood and the plasma on the needle will dilute your ink in the caps and this in turn will give an uneven weak fill.

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Post by easy31st Tue May 10, 2016 10:22 am

I had 4 ink caps set out. I think my problem was patience, so much to fill in so I was trying to cover more area instead of just coexisting on little spots and getting those spots solid and moving on.
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Post by easy31st Tue May 10, 2016 10:27 am

Dmerit wrote:I find that a bigger needle doesn't always colour as quick as you think,,,, I very rarely use anything bigger than a 7mag...an important thing when packing colour is to angle your machine, sometimes much more than you'd think...
I was trying different things with the angle 45 to 90 I couldn't really tell what went better. At a 45 it felt like I was going in the skin deeper but I guess since the angle its steeper it really ain't going in that deep.
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Post by Loulou Tue May 10, 2016 12:27 pm

im doing a leg blackout soon , fucking dreading it lol
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Post by easy31st Tue May 10, 2016 12:47 pm

Loulou wrote:im doing a leg blackout soon , fucking dreading it lol
No lie that shit was like 7 1/2 hours, it's so tedious. Not fun at all but I did get practice I did whip shading in the just because I never did it before and because I was filling it all in it didn't matter.
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Post by Loulou Tue May 10, 2016 12:49 pm

yeah im going to order in some big mags i think , this guy has got legs like fucking tress as well lol , but yeah may as well have a fuck about and practice while your there
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Post by head Tue May 10, 2016 3:46 pm

I've been blacking out my own arm lol
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Post by Ketchup Kid Wed May 11, 2016 5:38 pm

at least you can't see whats underneath anymore...

this is some good info on solid black fill in...

can anyone explain the needle angle thing? at 45 degree fewer needles would penetrate correctly, the bottom half goes in deeper than the top half (instead of all needles penetrating the same at 90 degree). and yet more ink seems to go in and make a bigger footprint at lower angle. at least thats what i think i see happening... kinda goes against logic...
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Post by easy31st Wed May 11, 2016 5:43 pm

Aa for needle angle I try to keep ita little more them 45 degrees it works for me. Loulou have fun blacking out that tree trunk, lol.
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Post by easy31st Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:17 pm

I have to go in again with the black on the solid part. It came out very patchy.blackout tattoo 20160514
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Post by Whippet Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:27 pm

Looks nice and tidy on the pics. Not a fan of blackout (I know it can be necessary) but with the hexagons it really breaks up what could be really dull...nice job my friend!
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Post by GM74 Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:52 pm

I agree nice touch of skill and design with the Hexagon's.

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Post by tyler300888 Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:07 pm

Looking good easy.
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Post by head Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:40 pm

on the black thats healed or in future you should over lap the bit you just coloured slighty that way you won't get them lines going through it the way you ave mate
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Post by Ketchup Kid Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:45 pm

good shit.

did you change technique this time? from the pictures it looks pretty solid.

also you already know dispersion gets a lil better after heal.

but if this is your homeboy then you will have to do another 12 hour pass, what a nightmare.
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Post by Dmerit Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:00 pm

This is why working at an angle works better.....skin is fairly transparent, you see the ink that's under the skin,,,, so imagine taking a single needle coated in ink and  sticking it in the skin at 90°,,,you would see a single dot,,, now if you did the same thing again but at 45° because of the thickness of the layers of skin, it would look like a line,, so in effect giving more coverage for every puncture....
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Post by Ketchup Kid Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:04 pm

Dmerit wrote:This is why working at an angle works better.....skin is fairly transparent, you see the ink that's under the skin,,,, so imagine taking a single needle coated in ink and  sticking it in the skin at 90°,,,you would see a single dot,,, now if you did the same thing again but at 45° because of the thickness of the layers of skin, it would look like a line,, so in effect giving more coverage for every puncture....

Hey D!!

finally an answer to that fucking question i been baffled about for so long... thanks
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Post by easy31st Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:27 pm

I tried what demerit said with the 45. I filled in the hexagons with a 9cm and took my time. When I did the big solid area I wasn't ready for how long and boring it was. I might be going back ove that in the next two weeks.
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